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In this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, we’re giving our podcast community a first look at the vital conversations to expect at HxA Conference 2022 in Denver this June, as we host a discussion between two of our conference speakers on the crisis of trust in higher education—a central theme in both our upcoming conference and summer programming.

Our guests on the show are Kyle Vitale, HxA’s Director of Programs and Erec Smith, Associate Professor of Rhetoric at York College of Pennsylvania and co-founder of Free Black Thought, a non-profit that highlights black viewpoint diversity.

Before hearing from Kyle and Erec, you’ll listen to a blog post on this core topic of HxA Conference 2022: The Trust Crisis in Higher Education. The post features four perspectives from four of our conference speakers:

  • Erec Smith, today’s podcast guest and Associate Professor of Rhetoric at York College of Pennsylvania
  • Holden Thorp, Editor-in-Chief at the Science family of journals,
  • Shirley Mullen, President Emerita at Houghton College
  • Michael Roth, President of Wesleyan University. 

Blog post: On The Crisis of Trust in Higher Education 

For more from our guests, you can follow Erec on Twitter at @Rhetors_of_York, and Kyle at @kylesebvitale

Let us know what you think! For comments and questions email

This episode was hosted by Zach Rausch, and produced by Davies Content.