“Once you start all of a sudden emphasizing status or seeing yourself as a tribal institution with different groups and different tribes, each of whom is really an interest group promoting their picture of the world and really is not interested in challenges to it; or challenges get perceived as offensive attacks or as harms, then you’ve changed the nature of the [academic] subculture. Too what extent that subculture has already changed is one of the things I know that people at Heterodox Academy are concerned with. I certainly am concerned about it. And whether or not the picture of the modern academy that I just gave is sustainable, how many people are prepared to defend it, these are all issues of the day.”