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In this episode, clinical psychologist Kathryn Gordon talks about whether prejudiced political expression can cause trauma in listeners. Katie worked as a professor in the psychology department at North Dakota State University (NDSU) for ten years.

We also talk about Katie’s podcast Jedi Counsel, which is co-hosted by Brandon Saxton. Jedi Counsel discusses psychological science through fictional characters, current events, and interviews.

Related Links

Blog post by Katie on college mental health
Jedi Counsel episode about college mental health
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