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Social psychologist Chris Martin talks about viewpoint diversity, civility, polarization, truth, ideology, pedagogy, and constructive disagreement with Alice Dreger, Jon Haidt, Cristine Legare, Glenn Loury, John McWhorter, and other leading academics.

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#77: James Poniewozik, Audience of One James Poniewozik

Guest: James Poniewozik is the chief television critic for the New York Times.



#76: Debra Mashek, Heterodox Academy in 2020 Deb Mashek

Guest: Debra Mashek is the Executive Director of Heterodox Academy.



#75: Carol Quillen, Leading a Liberal Arts College

Guest: Carol Quillen is the president of Davidson College and an historian by training.



#74: Phoebe Maltz Bovy, How Useful is Privilege Checking? phoebe maltz bovy

Guest: Phoebe Maltz Bovy is the author of The Perils of Privilege and co-host of the Feminine Chaos podcast.



#73: Ilana Redstone, Heterodox Sociology ilana redstone

Guest: Ilana Redstone is an associate professor of sociology at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, an HxA Faculty Fellow and the moderator for HxSociology.



Tony McAleer#72: Tony McAleer, The Cure for Hate

Guest: Tony McAleer is the co-founder of Life After Hate, a non-profit organization whose mission to help people leave hate groups and to counter hate on social media without censorship.



robert talisse#71: Robert Talisse, Overdoing Democracy

Guest: Robert Talisse is the W. Alton Jones Professor of Philosophy at Vanderbilt University.



sheila heen#69 and 70: Sheila Heen, Difficult Conversations for Faculty and Students

Guest: Sheila Heen is a lecturer at Harvard Law School and a founder of Triad Consulting Group. Part 1 of the conversation is available here. Part 2 is available here.



matthew h. goldberg#68: Matthew H. Goldberg, From Christian Identity to Climate Action

Guest: Matthew Goldberg is a postdoctoral associate at the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication.



charlie sykes#67: Charlie Skyes, Conservative Media

Guest: Charlie Skyes is a conservative political commentator and co-founder of The Bulwark.



decatur book festival#66: Kevin Kruse & Julian Zelizer, Fault Lines

Guests: Kevin Kruse and Julian Zelizer are professors of history at Princeton University who specialize on the United States.


lara schwartz#65: Lara Schwartz, False Equivalence

Guest: Lara Schwartz is a professor in law and government, and the director of the Project for Civil Discourse, at American University.



steven pinker HxA2019#64: Steven Pinker, An Unnecessary Defense of Reason and a Necessary Defense of the University’s Role in Advancing It

Guest: Steven Pinker is an experimental cognitive psychologist at Harvard University and a popular writer on language, mind, and human nature. Talkback host Nick Gillespie is the Editor-at-Large for Reason Magazine.


Joanna Schug#63: Joanna Schug, Relational Mobility and Social Confusion 

Guest: Joanna Schug is a social and cross-cultural psychologist at the College of William & Mary.



cailin o'connor#62: Cailin O’Connor, How False Beliefs Spread 

Guest: Cailin O’Connor is an associate professor in the Department of Logic and Philosophy of Science, and a member of the Institute for Mathematical Behavioral Science at UC Irvine.



conference#61: HxA 2019 Conference Special Episode

Guests: Jonathan Haidt (HxA Board Chair and Professor at NYU Stern), Amna Khalid (historian, Carleton College), Jesse Singal (journalist, New York Magazine), Anya Pechko (entrepreneur and founder of Project Be), Fabio Rojas (sociologist, Indiana University Bloomington) and Nicholas Phillips (HxA Research Associate).


Oliver Burkeman#60: Oliver Burkeman on How the News Took Over Reality

Guest: Oliver Burkeman is a journalist for the Guardian and author of books on happiness including Help! and The Antidote. 



Nicholas Christakis#59: Nicholas Christakis on the Evolutionary Origins of a Good Society

Guest: Nicholas Christakis is a physician and sociologist at Yale University and director of the Human Nature Lab at the Yale Institute for Network Science.



angie maxwell#58: Angie Maxwell on the New Southern Strategy

Guest: Angie Maxwell is an associate professor of Southern studies at University of Arkansas and chair of the Diane D. Blair Center of Southern Politics.



teresa bejan 2#57: Teresa Bejan on Mere Civility

Guest: Teresa Bejan is an associate professor of political theory at University of Oxford.



2019 Conference#56: On the 2019 Heterodox Academy Conference

Guests: HxA Executive Director Deb Mashek and Communications Director Karen Gillo discuss the forthcoming Heterodox Academy conference and Open Inquiry Awards dinner. More information available here.


Maria Dixon Hall#55: Maria Dixon Hall on Cultural Intelligence

Guest: Maria Dixon Hall manages the Campus Cultural Intelligence program at Southern Methodist University. She has a background in multiple disciplines, having earned a masters of divinity, a masters of theology, and a PhD in Organizational Communication and Religion.


#54: Arthur Sakamoto on Asian Americans’ Educational Attainment

Guest: Arthur Sakamoto is a professor of sociology at Texas A&M.



Christopher Federico#53: Christopher Federico on the Psychology of Political Behavior

Guest: Christopher Federico is a political psychologist with joint appointments in psychology and political science at the University of Minnesota.



#52: Ashley Jardina on White Identity Politics

Guest: Ashley Jardina is an Assistant Professor of Political Science at Duke University.



Arthur Brooks#51: Arthur Brooks on Loving One’s Enemies

Guest: Arthur Brooks is the president of the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and former professor of business and government policy at Syracuse University. This episode includes guest host Deb Mashek (Executive Director, Heterodox Academy) alongside Jim Meigs and Richard Davies of the “How Do We Fix It?” podcast.


Kathryn Gordon#50: Kathryn Gordon on Offensive Speech and Trauma

Guest: Kathryn Gordon is a clinical psychologist, and co-host of the Jedi Counsel podcast.



Jeffrey Sachs#49: Jeffrey Sachs on the Campus Free Speech ‘Crisis’

Guest: Jeffrey Sachs is a lecturer in politics at Acadia University.



julian zelizer#48: Julian Zelizer on Polarization and U.S. History

Guest: Julian Zelizer is an historian at Princeton University and CNN political analyst.



interfaith youth core#47: Diversity, Pluralism and the Interfaith Youth Core

Guests: Noah Silverman is the senior director of learning and partnerships at the Interfaith Youth Core; Katie Baxter is their Vice President of Program Strategy.



mashek and team#46: Debra Mashek and Musa al-Gharbi on HxA’s Past and Future

Guests: Musa al-Gharbi is the outgoing communications director for Heterodox Academy; guest-host Debra Mashek is HxA’s executive director.


ReConsider podcast#45: Erik Fogg and Xander Snyder on Tribalism and Biases

Guests: Erik Fogg is the founder of ReConsider Media. Xander Snyder is an analyst for Geopolitical Futures and Fogg’s co-host for the ReConsider podcast.

chad wellmon# 44: Chad Wellmon on the Purpose(s) of Universities

Guest: Chad Wellmon is an associate professor of German Studies at the University of Virginia. His interests include European intellectual history, and media and social theory.

Kevin Kruse#43: Kevin Kruse on America’s Fault Lines

Guest: Kevin Kruse is an historian at Princeton University. His research is focused primarily on the United States, post World War II. 

ellen hendriksen#42: Ellen Hendriksen on Maintaining Your Sanity in Academia

Guest: Ellen Hendriksen is a clinical psychologist at Boston University’s Center for Anxiety and Related Disorders (CARD) and host of a top-rated podcast, “The Saavy Psychologist.”

Craig Frisby Joshua Phillips#41: Craig Frisby & Joshua D. Phillips on Cultural Competence Training.

Guests: Craig Frisby is a professor in the college of education at the University of Missouri and co-editor of Cultural Competence in Applied Psychology: An Evaluation of Current Status and Future Directions. Joshua Phillips is a professor in the Communication Arts and Sciences department at Penn State Brandywine who contributed a chapter to the book.

Tania Reynolds#40: Tania Reynolds on Men as Sterotypical Perpetrators of Harm.

Guest: Tania Reynolds is a social psychologist and postdoctoral researcher at the Kinsey Institute. Her research focuses on gender perceptions and sex differences. 

Jim Meigs, Deb Mashek, Richard Davies, and A. J. Jacobs,#39: A.J. Jacobs on Gratitude.

Guest: A.J. Jacobs is a journalist, lecturer and bestselling author. This episode includes guest host Deb Mashek (Executive Director, Heterodox Academy) alongside Jim Meigs and Richard Davies of the “How Do We Fix It?” podcast.

lucia martinez valdivia#38: Lucia Martinez Valdivia on Unifying and Divisive Identities.

Guest: Lucia Martinez Valdivia is an Associate Professor of English and the Humanities at Reed College. Her research focuses on early-modern poetry and prose. 

charlotta stern #37: Charlotta Stern on Gender Sociology’s Problems.

Guest: Charlotta Stern is a Senior Lecturer in Sociology at Stockholm University. Her research has focused on social movement dynamics, labor market stratification, and on the political views of professors.

julie wronkski#36: Julie Wronski on How Authoritarianism Divides the Democratic Party.

Guest: Julie Wronski is an assistant professor of political science at the University of Mississippi. Her research focuses on politics and civil society in the United States.

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#35: Jeff Jones & David Askenaszi on Free Expression at U.S. Universities.

Guests: David Askenazi is Director of Learning and Impact at the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation. Jeff Jones is a researcher at Gallup.

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#34: Greg Lukianoff & Jonathan Haidt on the Coddling of the American Mind.

Guests: Greg Lukianoff is the president of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE). Jonathan Haidt is a professor of social psychology at NYU Stern and board chair of Heterodox Academy.

#33: Jason Stanley on How Fascism Works.

Guest: Jason Stanley is a professor of philosophy at Yale University. His recent work focuses on populism and politics. 

#32: Robert Quinn on the Scholars at Risk Network

Guest: Robert Quinn is the Executive Director of the Scholars at Risk Network, which helps protect and relocate academics whose freedom and security are threatened in their home countries.

#31: Jessica Good on  the Ups and Downs of MulticulturalismJessica Good.

Guest: Jessica Good is a social psychologist at Davidson College. Her research focuses on stereotyping and discrimination.

rick mehta#30: Rick Mehta on Free Speech in Canadian Universities

Guest: Rick Mehta is a professor of psychology at Acadia University in Nova Scotia, Canada. His research focuses on the mechanisms involved in decision making.

#29: Fabio Rojas on the Sociology of Activism

Guest: Fabio Rojas is a sociology professor at Indiana University Bloomington and the author of From Black Power to Black Studies: How a Radical Social Movement Became an Academic Discipline and Theory for the Working Sociologist.

 #28: Robert Wright on Mindfulness, Political Tribalism and De-Biasing Ourselves

Guest: Robert Wright, former senior editor at The New Republic, co-founder of Blogging Heads TV, and host of The Wright Show. He’s also the author of several bestselling books on evolution and society. His latest book is Why Buddhism Is True: The Science and Philosophy of Meditation and Enlightenment.

#27: Heather Heying on Life After Evergreen

Guest: Heather Heying, alongside her husband Bret Weinstein, formerly taught at Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington. After some highly publicized protests in the middle of 2017, both Heather and Bret left the college. Heather now describes herself as a professor in exile.

#26: John Inazu on Confident Pluralism and Thriving Through Deep Differences

Guest: John Inazu, professor of law and religion at Washington University in St. Louis and a member of Heterodox Academy. His scholarship focuses on the First Amendment freedoms—specifically speech, assembly, and religion. His first book is about freedom of assembly. His second book, which we discuss, is Confident Pluralism: Surviving and Thriving Through Deep Difference. It was published in 2016 and a paperback edition with a new introduction comes out this year.

#25: Arthur Sakamoto on Three Myths About Asian Americans

Guest: Arthur Sakamoto, professor of sociology at Texas A&M. In this episode, he discusses three myths and the conventional wisdom surrounding Asian Americans.

This is Professor Sakamoto’s second appearance on Half Hour of Heterodoxy (see episode #14).

#24: Caroline Mehl and Raffi Grinberg on the Open Mind Platform

Guests: Caroline Mehl and Raffi Grinberg, project director and innovation director (respectively) of the OpenMind Platform, an interactive tool to help individuals learn perspective taking and intellectual humility using principles from psychology.

You can check out OpenMind at openmindplatform.org and follow OpenMind on Twitter at @openmindusa.

#23: Richard Reeves on J.S. Mill and Liberalism

Guest: Richard Reeves, social and political commentator and he has written for the several newspapers and magazines in the US and the UK including the Guardian and The Atlantic. He has also written a biography of John Stuart Mill, John Stuart Mill: Victorian Firebrand. Between 2010 and 2012, Richard was director of strategy to the UK’s Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg. He has also served as director of Demos, the London-based political think-tank. He is currently a senior fellow in Economic Studies at the Brooking Institution in Washington DC.

#22: David Frum on Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic

Guest: David Frum, senior editor at the Atlantic Magazine and a frequent contributor at MSNBC. He is a former speechwriter for George W. Bush. In this episode, he discusses his newest book Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic.

#21: Musa Al-Gharbi on Social Research and Campus Climate
Guest: Musa Al-Gharbi, Research Associate at Heterodox Academy and a PhD student in sociology at Columbia University. The topics of his research include terrorism, extremism, war, antiracism, and, more recently, U.S. political elections.

#20: Deb Mashek on Heterodox Academy in 2018

Guest: Debra Mashek, Executive Director of Heterodox Academy. She is currently professor of psychology at Harvey Mudd College, but will be leaving that position to serve full time as executive director. This episode focuses on her career and her three priorities for HxA in 2018.

#19: Frank Lechner on the Symmetric Polarization vs. Republican Radicalism Debate

Guest: Frank Lechner, professor of sociology at Emory University. He did his undergraduate work in sociology at Tilburg University in the Netherlands, and then moved to the U.S. for his PhD. He’s the author of four books and two edited volumes—his most recent book is The American Exception, a book about American exceptionalism that covers several aspects of American life including religion, law, sports, and media.

#18: Jennifer Earl on Internet Activism and Fake News

Guest: Jennifer Earl, professor of sociology and a professor of government and public policy at the University of Arizona. Her research focuses on Internet and social movements, social movement repression, and the sociology of law.

#17: An Interview with John McWhorter [available as transcript only]

Guest: John McWhorter, Associate Professor of English and Comparative Literature at Columbia University, where he teaches linguistics, American studies, philosophy, and music history. He is the author of a number of books on language and on race relations.

#16: Cristine Legare on Teaching Techniques

Guest: Cristine Legare, associate professor of psychology at the University of Texas-Austin and executive board member of Heterodox Academy. The episode covers two teaching issues: how to teach a politically and religiously diverse student body, and how to approach controversial issues.

#15: Alice Dreger on How Branding Stifles Academy Freedom

Guest: Alice Dreger, historian of medicine and science, sex researcher, and an advocate of academic freedom. She is the author of Galileo’s Middle Finger: Heretics, Activists, and One Scholar’s Search for Justice.

#14: Arthur Sakamoto on Paradigms in Sociology

Guest: Arthur Sakamoto, professor of sociology at Texas A&M. He specializes in economic sociology and class inequality. He has published a number of papers on Asian Americans and their socioeconomic attainments, and Asian-American discrimination against in the labor market.

#13: Glenn Loury on Faculty and Administrators

Guest: Glenn Loury, Merton P. Stoltz Professor of the Social Sciences and Professor of Economics at Brown University. He hosts The Glenn Show at Bloggingheads.tv, where he has talked to John McWhorter, Rob Montz, Amy Wax, and others about campus politics and the censorship of unorthodox views.

#12: Jon Haidt on Heterodox Academy

Guest: Jon Haidt, co-founder of Heterodox Academy. He is a professor of business ethics at the NYU Stern School of Business. He is the author of The Happiness Hypothesis: Finding Modern Truth in Ancient Wisdom (2006) and The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion (2012). His newest book The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting up a Generation for Failure is out July 2018.

#11: Norm Ornstein on US Politics, Partisanship and Tribalism

Guest: Norm Ornstein, fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. He has written and co-written a number of books about gridlock and partisanship in the American political system including The Permanent Campaign and Its Future (1995), The Broken Branch (2006), and It’s Even Worse Than It Looks (2012).

#10: Scott Lilienfeld on Microaggressions and The Goldwater Rule

Guest: Scott Lilienfeld, professor of psychology at Emory University. His popular books include Brainwashed: The Seductive Appeal of Mindless Neuroscience and 50 Great Myths of Popular Psychology. Here, he talks about his 2016 article evaluating the psychological literature on microaggressions and his 2017 article about revoking the Goldwater rule.

#9: Rick Shweder on Multiculturalism and Diversity

Guest: Rick (Richard) Shweder, cultural anthropologist at University of Chicago’s Department of Comparative Human Development. He is author and editor of numerous books including Thinking Through Cultures: Expeditions in Cultural Psychology and Why Do Men Barbecue? Recipes for Cultural Psychology. His research examines the scopes and limits of pluralism, diversity and equality, and the multicultural challenge in Western liberal democracies.

#8: Jacques Berlinerblau on Campus Confidential: How College Works or Doesn’t

Guest: Jacques Berlinerblau, professor and director of the Center for Jewish Civilization at the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University. He talks about his book, Campus Confidential: How College Works or Doesn’t, for Professors, Parents, and Students (2017).

#7: Lee Jussim on Stereotype Accuracy and Biased Science

Guest: Lee Jussim, Professor of Social Psychology at Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey. He conducts research on stereotypes and stereotype accuracy and blogs at Rabble Rouser.

#6: Matt Grossman on Asymmetric Polarization

Guest: Matt Grossman, Associate Professor of political science at Michigan State University and director of the Institute for Public Policy and Social Research.

#5: Cristine Legare on Socioeconomic Theory and Teaching Controversial Topics

Guest: Cristine Legare, Associate Professor of Psychology at the University of Texas-Austin. She specializes in the study of culture, cultural learning, and cognition. She is a winner of the 2015 APS Janet Taylor Spence Award for Transformative Early Career Contributions.

#4: April Kelly-Woessner on Declining Political Tolerance

Guest: April Kelly-Woessner, Professor of Political Science and Chair of the Department of Politics, Philosophy and Legal Studies at Elizabethtown College. She specializes in public opinion, mass behavior, and political psychology. She is the co-editor of The Still Divided Academy: How Competing Visions of Power Politics and Diversity Complicate the Mission of Higher Education (2011).

#3: Sam Abrams on Academic Representation and National Polarization

Guest: Sam Abrams, Research fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution on War, Revolution, and Peace; faculty fellow at Center for Advanced Social Science Research at NYU; and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

#2: George Yancey (North Texas) on Anti-Christian Bias and Race Relations

Guest: George Yancey, professor of sociology at the University of North Texas. He has published numerous books on anti-Christian bias within the academy and in the community at large. He has also written about a “mutual responsibility model” for addressing structural racism.

#1: Jonathan Zimmerman on The Case for Contention

Guest: Jon Zimmerman, professor of history of education at the Graduate School of Education, University of Pennsylvania. In this interview, Jon talks about his book The Case for Contention: Teaching Controversial Issues in American Schools (2017), which he co-authored with Emily Robertson of Syracuse University.

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